Need some ideas..did a goals meeting tonight since I felt tension in my small high school team. We have a very new team dynamic this year won our 1st meet since 1999. We have some are very talented young swimmers with big goals ie state champion. Some who admittedly say they are social swimmers upperclassmen. The Social swimmers are not interested in practicing or winning just want to have fun. Show up late, leave early, skip practice all together or just sit and watch or talk during sets. They feel too much emphasis on winning this year Others want to win and improve. Not enough swimmers to have jv and varsity. So no matter how poor attitude or motivation is everyone swims or we cant cover every event. How do I meet both groups needs working those with goals hard enough to meet them and some how get the non-competetive group to try without jealousy coming into play.
You won’t meet the needs of two camps. However, I think it would be better to look at the needs of each individual and try to meet his or her needs — as a person, as an athlete, as a swimmer, as a school student, as a mentor. So, break it down to personal relationships. Trust and respect with each person. However, this gets really libertarian rather quickly. Monolithic TEAM — not so much.
IMHO, I love to stress that kids on the team, and kids in life, need to have brushes with excellence. It is a perspective thing. Sure, everything in life isn’t going to be great, be excellent, be all academic Ivy League. But, we need to have our kids have exposure to witness that — or perhaps some — to live it, or be near it.
How cool is it that you’ve got a team-mate with state champion goals.
Your goal talk was a great way to get that discussion rolling. You will need more and more of them, in semi-private, individual and public ways.
Understand, that how I treat SAM is not going to be exactly like how I treat YOU. Worry most about the 1-to-1 with each athlete. Athletes can’t mind nor be jealous of what unfolds in another relationship. We all need to share the respect of team and we all have a role within the overall squad.
We need social swimmers. I value social swimmers. Social swimmers should be, and are welcomed. But, social swimmers who get in the way of other people, then they are really being anti-social and are a problem that is about disrespect and dishonesty.
Bryn, a junior at The Ellis School, gets to go to make the trip to states and swim the 50 free on Friday, March 16, 2018. Watch this page for updates on her results. The meet is also put on TV with a broadcast from PCN, Pennsylvania Cable Network. Another source for swim information is the website and Twitter feed from PA Swimming.com.
Safe travels and godspeed to Bryn, her family and The Ellis School’s head swim coach, Ed Chow.
Pennsylvania High Schools can choose to compete in various sports under the organization of the PIAA. Many of the schools in and around Pittsburgh, including The Ellis School, are part of PIAA District 7, also called, the WPIAL.
A limited number of student athletes get to advance to the state championships each year by qualification at the district meets.
In 2018, two swimmers from The Ellis School, Violet and Bryn, both were able to swim two individual events each. In high school meets, swimmers are only permitted to swim two events maximum. Finishers in the top four positions in each event get an automatic invite to attend and compete in the state championship meet held two weeks after the WPIAL Championships. The State Championships are at Bucknell University in Lewisburg, PA, again in 2018.
Bryn is seeded with the 25th fastest time in the psych sheet before the competition begins. All the swimmers compete in the morning prelims and the fastest 8 make championship finals and those from 9 to 16 make the consolation finals. Finals are contested in the evening.
Noah Jamison, junior, Obama Academy of Pittsburgh Public Schools has two events at the PIAA AA Meet at Bucknell University in Lewisburg, PA. This posting helps to explain where he is seeded going into the meet.
To get to states, swimmers can earn an an automatic invite by placing high in their respective district meets. The WPIAL Championships, District 7, is Noah’s as the Obama Academy joined the WPIAL some 6 or so years ago.
Or, swimmers can earn an invite to the PIAA meet with a fast qualifying time until all the other spots are filled, an “at-large bid” so to speak.
To figure out the seeded position, one must blend the two pathways.
Screen-shots of the psych sheets are presented below. Click image for a larger view. Also posted at PA Swimming.com.
Noah is with the 16th fastest time entered in the meet, 2:01.22.
Noah is with the 8th fastest time entered in the meet.
Seeded 16th in the 200 IM and 8th in the 500 free.
In the PIAA Meets, both AA and AAA, everyone gets to swim in the prelims. Then the fastest 8 times get to advance to the championship finals and the places 9 to 16 get to advance to the consolation finals. The championship and consolation finals races are in the night on the same day as the prelims. Only those in championship finals, from first to eighth at the end of the prelims can finish in the spots 1 to 8. Those who finish in morning session in places 9 to 16 get to race for final positions from 9th to 16th.
The 200 IM is on the first day of the meet, Friday. The 500 free is on the second day of the meet, Saturday.
Once again, another fall sports season comes and the city kids don’t have a seat in the fall water polo tournaments. School and district administrators don’t care to support the program by simply approving the submitted pool permit requests so that the team can hold practices. Get this: Pool permits were put into the school in mid-August, and as of September 8, there is still no news.
Avoidance rules in some sectors of PPS.
Frustration mounts, even with the new principal and new superintendent.
Track star running in the pool with our home made drag device, a milk crate and an old bike tube looped with an aqua jogger belt, for comfort’s sake.
He goes to PIAA T&F Meet in two weeks and hopes to go 10.8 or so. He also plays football and is thinking about attending WVU, Temple, Akron, and a few others.
Mark Rauterkus, Varsity Swim Coach, Obama Academy.
I lead Swim & Water Polo after-school programs at Westinghouse (Mondays), Obama (Tuesdays & Thursdays), Allegheny (starting on Wednesdays), Arsenal (starting Fridays). Our Saturday Swim School (Oliver HS pool on the Northside) continues from 9 am to 1 pm (most weeks). At 6 am I’m at Sci-Tech three days a week. I coached Manchester Academic Charter School at the Sarah Heinz House and help with Pittsburgh Masters Water Polo and, of course, PPS Summer Dreamers. This year PPS Summer Dreamers’ Swim & Water Polo is at King and U-Prep.
These activities are open to new participants, especially the Saturday Swim School. See my web sites at CLOH.org for details. CLOH = Creating Literate Olympians Here.
As we look to the summer, I’m going to be creating a new swimming, water polo and TRIATHLON team, on the Northside on Charles Street with The Pittsburgh Project.
Kids, adults, teachers, … we’re hiring. Some of the varsity swimmers help, but we need about 35 as swim instructors, junior captains, guards, and coaches. Much of this work happens with the help of the Bloomfield-Garfield Corporation, and I’m activity recruiting employees.
Earlier this month, an Obama Swimmer, Sead Niksic, junior, set a new WPIAL Record in the class AA 100-yard backstroke. This is the first time a PPS student in any sport broke a WPIAL record. That news got a mentioned on the PPS home page.
All-in-all, our swimmers performed in brilliant fashion at the WPIAL and PIAA meets. After the snow storm, I took three of the Obama students to the PIAA meet. The Obama boys team finished in the top 20 in the state. All of the swimmers set personal and school records.
This was the 9th consecutive season our PPS kids from Schenley / Obama went to states.
Sead was second in the back and third in the fly. Noah scored 13th in the 500 free in his first trip to states as a sophomore. Amila, a freshman, dropped an additional 1-second in her backstroke, after getting 2nd at the WPIAL championships, having been seeded 10th.
You, your spouse, coaches, swimmers, lifeguards, PE teachers, and all community members are invited to join in at a seminar and demonstration as well as post-game social to be held in Pittsburgh’s South Side starting at 6:30 pm on Wednesday, April 12, 2017, at the historic, Citiparks’ Oliver Bath House. Out of town guest include aquatic experts with the National Drowning Prevention Alliance (NDPA.org) and Kevin McCarthy of Washington state, inventor of the aquatic game, SKWIM. Bring your swim suit and towel as we will put our PA friends into SKWIM games with opponents from around the nation. We’ll learn about this terrific game, talk swimming, and find out what you might want to do to help get our kids swimming, more fit and safer in the water. We need to better utilize our facilities too.
After our time at the Oliver Bath House, all are invited to walk to a post game social starting at 9 pm at our home / office at 108 S. 12th Street, South Side, Pgh 15203.
Gratis Tickets / RSVP at Swim.CLOH.org.
In October 2016, I came to speak. My specific ask was for PPS support for WATER POLO instead of GOLF. The Obama golf team had one kid this year and none have made it to the final city-league match in the past two years. We have dozens of water polo players, and we own the pool. This would be a tremendous help for the students, programs and district in many ways. And, as a switch, it can be “budget neutral.”
I made that request to the board and the top administrators because you are the ones that will have to make it happen.
I find it sad that I have heard nothing about this issue from any of you since then.
Let’s fix this for fall 2017.
Furthermore, other matters, not well suited for public comment, need some attention. As we talk about district supported water polo, (we mainly need money for officials, some bus transit to matches and practice times at the school pool), we can share that list. This focused list of suggestions has many repeated requests from the past.
The PIAA Swim Championships have been turned into a timed final event rather than prelims and finals. Plus, the divers got moved back to the next weekend. Swimming starts on Thursday and ends on Friday for Class AA, smaller schools such as Obama Academy. The the Class AAA swimmers compete on Saturday and Sunday.
Divers needed to work around the Bucknell Water Polo events.
2017 Diving Schedule Revised